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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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from australia for science and reason

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode number 673

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for the 29th of august 2021 richard

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saunders coming to you from the extended

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lockdown in sydney australia

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of course the

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um

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australia continue to rise especially in

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this state new south wales

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where we've been

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hitting over a thousand new cases a day

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largely uh within the sydney area

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and this is despite the stringent

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lockdowns and curfews and what have you

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and of course we realize without these

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conditions put in place the

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cases the new cases each day would be in

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the thousands

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the hospital system at the moment is

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barely coping i

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dread to think

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what would be the case

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if we didn't have these lockdowns in

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place

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how many more people would

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be trying to get into the emergency

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wards and being turned away

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it's not an easy situation

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no matter how you look at it

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it's tough it really is and i wish

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i wish it was all over

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but what's not all over is the skeptic

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zone this week what's coming up you can

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count on adrian with adrian hill this

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week

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adrian heads for the tourist area of

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jasper in canada a spectacular

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area the vistas are incredible the

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mountains are just

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marvellous

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but also included with the incredible

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views

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is a crystal shop

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what does adrian find

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find out after that we jump straight

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into the trove segment this week where

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we wander through the decades of digital

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archives this week we're looking for

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references to thought reading

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not mind reading well it's more or less

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the same thing but it's called

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thought reading

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can you read my mind

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after that it's the australian skeptics

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newsletter once again

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read by adrian hill all the way over

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there in canada

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and what a great job she's doing with

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the skeptical news every other week then

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to round off the show something

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completely different

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not very skeptical at all

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just goofing off because why not because

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lockdown's been going for months and

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we're all going a bit stir crazy

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i made the grave error of calling up

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that goose maynard and asking him how he

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beats the lockdown blues

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turn off your brain

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and relax at the end of the show

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with maynard

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and a big happy birthday to those people

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who have had a birthday in the last week

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since the last episode

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or maybe your kids have had a birthday

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or your parents or your brother or your

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sister or somebody you know that's an

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old cold reading trick there's a trick

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in cold reading especially when it's

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done live from the stage in front of an

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audience i call the birthday routine

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and it goes something like

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the psychic will look at a section of

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the audience and say i'm getting a

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strange message here i'm getting a

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who here who here has had a birthday

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is likely to put up their hands because

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more than once that trick

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the audience and you've happened to have

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a birthday within a week or two of the

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well i'm trying here at the skeptic's

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own headquarters to get my three little

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ducks in a row

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it's not always easy

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well that's enough for me at the moment

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it's now what's that what's that what's

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that are you a little cat meowing for

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more the cat is at the bottom of the

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i know what i'll find when i go down

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there i can hear her she's sitting at

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the bottom of the steps and she's got

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her toy mouse on the floor and she cries

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and she mouths until i run down the

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steps and play with her toy mouse and

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i'll grab a cup of coffee at the same

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time while i'm doing all that

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you can count on adrian

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we are very fortunate to live close to

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the rocky mountains here in canada now

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that our province of alberta has opened

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things up my husband and i decided to

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take a trip to the lovely town of jasper

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jasper is a quaint town that was once a

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regular camping destination for us but

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we haven't visited in many years

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after a day of hiking we ventured into

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one of the stores we remembered most

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fondly called the jasper rock and jade

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shop where our kids used to buy small

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rocks as souvenirs

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the store was much the same as we

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remembered it and we settled in to enjoy

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the colorful and captivating rocks

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crystals pottery and artwork that the

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store is known for

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one of the first items we noticed was an

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alien carved from a mineral they called

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ocean jasper no relation to the name of

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the town that was quite beautiful and it

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had a price to match it was sixteen

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hundred and ninety five dollars

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what we noticed next made us laugh out

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loud next to several other lovely

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carvings using the same mineral was an

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apparent information card that we hoped

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to tell us more about this interesting

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substance but instead we got

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quote ocean jasper metaphysical

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properties a stone of joy and relaxation

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encourages a renewed interest in life

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relieves the effects of chronic stress

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supports the adrenals and aids in

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recovery from adrenal exhaustion end

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quote i was tempted to ask the employees

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the rocks and crystals but the store was

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there was no mention of anything

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metaphysical just names and pictures and

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owners may have found these words of

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a search of the text in quotes resulted

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in no matches so i just searched for

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ocean jasper metaphysical properties

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soulsisterdesigns.com and

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state that ocean jasper connects to the

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encouraging such things as optimism joy

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wondrous things that putting a mineral

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plus it's apparently useful quote in

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draining the lymph system of toxins that

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cause body odor and flatulence end quote

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i am not making this up

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there would be no further need for

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these informative little cards on other

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merchandise i discovered that copper

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attracts wealth prosperity success and

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attract beautiful photo opportunities

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find a nicely informative card for

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springs containing iron oxide

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the weird and woeful

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labradorite a stone that is used for

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magic divination and enhances one's

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petrified wood that assists in past life

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selenite which not only activates the

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third eye but

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intensely activates it and the crown and

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i had to look these up since i am not

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chakra educated for those of you like me

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who haven't studied chakras the crown

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chakra is the seventh chakra and is

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located on the crown of the head

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the soul chakra is the eighth chakra and

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is found above the crown chakra and is

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considered the point where spiritual

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energy enters the body

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in addition if you want to communicate

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with angels then selenite is for you

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balancing hormones

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it was wonderful to see the town of

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jasper again and to revisit some of our

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old haunts from the past and while the

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jasper rock and jade shop was much the

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same as we had remembered

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neither me nor my husband remember them

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having the spiritual and metaphysical

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meanings assigned to the rocks and

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minerals that we witnessed on this trip

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though i might not have paid as much

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attention nor recognized the dangers of

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such beliefs in the past

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i wouldn't have thought that people

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might not go to the hospital if they

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have a broken bone

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instead relying on rubbing wearing or

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sitting by a mineral or a rock

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i wouldn't have thought that some might

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rely on magical thinking instead of

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consulting a qualified dietitian and a

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physician if they are trying to lose

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weight need an iron supplement or their

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hormones aren't balanced

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i have become more aware of the dangers

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of such thinking since working with the

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gorilla skepticism on wikipedia project

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the gsow

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and the skeptic zone podcast and i'm

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very grateful for that

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until next time this is adrian hill

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hi there i'm abhijeet and i host the

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rationable podcast on berationable.com

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every couple of weeks i science the hell

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out of alternative medicines health and

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nutrition fads social media forwards

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science news and lots more of course you

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can find all of my articles podcast

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episodes and lots more on

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see you there and until then

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now it's time to once again look in

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those digital archives at trove

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trove.nla.gov the online resource from

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the australian government and the

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national library of australia

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maybe during lockdown they've got more

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time to digitize newspapers journals

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periodicals

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gazettes and magazines

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and of course in keeping with our

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paranormal theme

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in general

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this week i thought we'd look up

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mind reading

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or

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as it turns out

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thought reading

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there are more returns for thought

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reading than mind reading because mind

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reading

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in the scheme of things is a relatively

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new

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phrase so going back many decades even

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into the 1800s the term used

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was thought reading

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[Music]

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and we kick off by landing in the year

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1883

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on saturday the 14th of april as

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reported in the illustrated sydney news

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thought reading

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mr barrett of the british society for

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psychical research

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has delivered a lecture at the london

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institution on

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thought reading

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true or false

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the lecture was based on the evidence

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gathered by a committee of the society

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the committee conducted a long series of

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experiments with the children

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of a clergyman at buxton in derbyshire

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the experiments were thus conducted

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one of the children being sent out of

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the room the committee decided on some

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object in the house which was to be

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fetched by writing the name of the

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object on a piece of paper which was

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passed from one to the other

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no one else being present

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and then

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burned

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the child was then called and was told

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only that it was to fetch an object that

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was in the house the committee willed

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what this object was to be

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and the child without having the

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opportunity of gathering whatever

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might have been asserted from scanning

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their faces

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left the room and in 10 or 12 seconds

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returned in the large majority of cases

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with the article willed

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some

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328 trials were made

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of which

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202 were right

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127 of them being right on the first

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trial

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by the doctrine of chances seven and

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one-third

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would have been right on the first trial

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hmm

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and again

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machine

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i would love to have been there

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during the process of this so-called

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test

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next we go forward a few years to the

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year 1908

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in the barrier minor from broken hill

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new south wales on monday the 14th of

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december

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thought reading

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else one may choose to call it possesses

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a powerful fascination for believers

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and skeptics alike

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that is chiefly because we don't really

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understand it

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those who think they do are seeking for

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an opportunity of enlightening

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themselves on this branch of occult

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science

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may combine an indulgence of their

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curiosity

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with public charity on wednesday night

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when mr sebastian de lorne george will

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give a seance at the crystal theater

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mr george has obtained credit for his

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mind-reading performances in england and

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america as well as in australia and has

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puzzled a host of skeptics and tried the

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psychical research party into a knot

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his performance should be an interesting

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one and as it is in the cause of charity

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and i dare say we are reading the report

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of

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a mentalism act

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a mentalist although i don't think that

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term would have been used in

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1908 i could be wrong

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and interestingly enough barrier miner

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dated

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1908 again on the 12th of december

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so around the same time thought reading

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at the request of a number of gentlemen

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who have developed an interest in the

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occult demonstration known as thought

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reading mr sebastian george gave a

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private seance at the freeman's hotel

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last evening and succeeded in mystifying

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those present by an exhibition of his

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powers of what he claims to be thought

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transference

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various articles were hidden by those

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present and in each instance mr george

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generally with the assistance of

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muscular contact

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unerringly located the object in its

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hiding place the demonstration was

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acknowledged to be an interesting one

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and the skeptics had to admit that they

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were at fault in the manner of devising

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a popular explanation of how it was done

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now let's look to the bathurst times

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from new south wales dated the 17th of

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february 1925.

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new thought reading a professor's test

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much interest has been aroused by

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experiments in thought transference

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carried out recently

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at gerald balfour's house at woking

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surrey in the presence of his brother

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lord balfour professor gilbert murray

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and members of the society for psychical

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research

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isn't it amazing how often this society

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of psychical research appears

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in the experiments professor murray

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waited in the dining room of the house

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while others present in the drawing room

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which is separated from the dining room

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by a large hall chose a subject which

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was then spoken of once

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quietly professor murray was afterwards

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asked to come into the drawing room and

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say what thought subject was chosen

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while his hand was lightly held by mr

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j

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g biddington president of the society

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and i'll just stop there to say what an

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interesting coincidence because the name

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pettington is famous in australia as one

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of the great mentalist acts of the

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post-war era

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we read on

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in 10 successive tests of this kind the

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professor was successful in five in

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describing accurately the chosen subject

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in one those in the drawing room chose

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the subject of queen victoria learning

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that she was to succeed to the throne

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when he came into the room professor

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murray said

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it is something in a book no

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it is a picture

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it is the news coming to queen victoria

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that she is

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queen

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mr gerald balfour said the thought

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transference as they occurred in my

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house cannot be accounted for by what we

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know at present i have no doubt that

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some unknown factor was at work enabling

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communications to be made between the

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minds of two living persons thus there

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is a difference from spiritualism

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involving communications by living with

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the dead professor murray's own theory

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is that

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his ordinary powers become super

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sensitive so that he gets direct

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knowledge of another person's thought

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he is skeptical

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about the play of an unknown power

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[Music]

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while i'm not skeptical at all about

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a relatively simple

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mentalism routine

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although

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i wasn't there in 1925

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nevertheless

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well there you are a bit of a shortened

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trove this week looking at thought

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reading

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but before we wrap up this segment i'm

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going to read something completely and

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utterly off topic something i just

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happened across while i was doing lots

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of research in the trove archives comes

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from

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in 1919

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on this 27th of february

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during the

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spanish flu pandemic

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and it is titled

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useless masks

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one of the matters puzzling dr robertson

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chairman of the melbourne board of

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health is why the new south wales

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government insists upon the people

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wearing masks in the street

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and permitting them to leave them off

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in their own

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homes

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if masks he says

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are any good it is in the homes and

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where there are congregations of people

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that they should be worn

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but why use them in the streets and out

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of doors genuinely

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it is generally agreed that the best

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precaution that can be taken is the

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breathing of pure air

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and if that is so

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why make the people wear masks when they

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are out

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in the air

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this

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here conclude is one of the many things

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i cannot understand about new south

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wales

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[Music]

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yes i've said it many times before

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you'll never know what you'll find when

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you look at the archives at trove at

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trove.nla.gov

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dot a u

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or even your local

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newspaper archives no matter where you

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are listening in the world

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i'm mick west in my podcast tales from

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the rabbit hole i have extended

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conversations with people who've been

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involved in conspiracy culture i do this

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for a couple of reasons firstly because

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it's really interesting these people

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have great stories about how they fell

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down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole

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what they did down there and what it was

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that helped them out sometimes i also

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talk to people who investigate

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conspiracy theories and they have

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equally fascinating stories from the

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other side secondly i want to understand

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how best to prevent the spread of

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conspiracy theories and misinformation

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which is an increasing problem in a time

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when alternative media is exploding the

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best way to do this is to communicate

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effectively with the people involved and

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the best way to do that is with a nice

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long chat

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check it out tales from the rabbit hole

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tfgrh.com

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hello everyone this is adrian hill from

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canada once again reading out the

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australian skeptics newsletter

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this is newsletter number 130 written

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and compiled by tim mendem

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all the stories mentioned in this

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newsletter come with links you can click

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on and read the full story for yourself

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hi all it says

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hard to get away from kova news at the

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moment and it's a sad situation when the

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main news alternative is what's going on

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in afghanistan our thoughts are with

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everyone going through hard times

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to brighten your day why not give a

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thought to nominating your least

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favorite paranormalist for the annual

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bent spoon award

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read on

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tim

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bent spoon nominations nominations are

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now open for the australian skeptics ben

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spoon award one of the least

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sought-after credits in the skeptical

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skepticon register your interest now

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registrations of interest are now open

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skeptic's annual national convention

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which this year will be held on november

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20th to 21st

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it will be a joint event held by

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australian skeptics in sydney australia

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and the new zealand skeptics in

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wellington new zealand with face-to-face

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and online participation available

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note that of course should the current

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situation in sydney regarding covid and

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lockdowns continue then we may be forced

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to have an online only convention for

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the sydney component

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hopefully the same won't apply in new

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details of the speakers and ticker

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prices will be available soon but in the

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meantime please register your interest

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[Music]

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covet skeptics request unvaccinated

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blood transfusions

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an american red cross spokesperson has

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said that her organization has fielded

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questions from clients worried that

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vaccinated blood would be quote tainted

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unquote

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capable of transmitting components from

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the covet vaccines

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red cross officials have had to reassure

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clients that a covet vaccine which is

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injected into muscle or the layer of

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skin below

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doesn't circulate in the blood

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while the antibodies that are produced

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by the stimulated immune system in

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response to vaccination are found

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throughout the bloodstream the actual

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vaccine components are not

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so far such demands have thankfully been

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rare and the resounding answer from

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centers and hospitals has been no

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quote i know of no one who is acceded to

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such a request which would be an

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operational can of worms for a medically

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unjustifiable request unquote a chief

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medical officer of an iowa blood center

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said

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another noted that quote less than 10

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percent of the blood we collect does not

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have antibodies unquote

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screenwriter dismisses antivax claims

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one of the writers of the 2007 sci-fi

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film i am legend has clarified its

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fictional nature amid rumors covet 19

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vaccines would turn people into zombies

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okay

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great film but

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not real

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the film is about a failed attempt to

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genetically re-engineer measles to cure

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cancer killing 99 percent of the world's

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population

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those who survive the infection turn

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into mutant vampiric creatures

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responding to the article akiva goldsman

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who co-wrote the screenplay based on a

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1954 novel of the same name tweeted

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quote

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oh

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my

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god

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it's a movie

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i made that up it's not real

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unquote

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we should add that the film i am legend

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is only loosely based on the book by

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richard matheson

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magna carta mayhem in edinburgh

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a misguided attempt by about 20 people

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using phrases like quote we the people

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and quote sovereign

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to seize edinburgh castle under the

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magna carta proved short-lived

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protesters appeared to be objecting to

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covet 19 lockdown although scotland has

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removed legally enforceable restrictions

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so exactly what the problem was remains

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unclear

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the fact that the magna carta also

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doesn't apply to scotland or even most

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people except for a bunch of 13th

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century disgruntled nobles also seems to

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have passed them by

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true crime and astrology course

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what can astrology tell us about crimes

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their victims and the perpetrators using

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astrology charts quote the most amazing

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details come to light on perplexing

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disappearances unquote

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beth turnage will share techniques of

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forensic astrologers along with her own

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findings using the charts of crimes

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fixed stars and quote astro

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astrocartography

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unquote

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a free event on august 25th at 7 pm

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will be out soon in september in fact

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publications and one old one

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and the in-depth response by skeptics

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and skeptics as to where there might be

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problems

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events

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while some skeptics groups are running

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their regular skeptics in the pub get

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togethers online same talks but byo beer

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an increasing number are returning to

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the live face-to-face format check your

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local guides to see when and where such

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considering any coveted restrictions

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september 2nd sydney skeptics in the pub

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online speaker and topic to be announced

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soon

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september 2nd

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launceston skeptics on the pub

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wilderness society 174 charles street

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launceston from

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september 9th queensland skeptics peace

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hall 102 mcdonald road windsor from 7 pm

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but check website to see if the event is

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on september 15th perth skeptics in the

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pub freedom of speech a skeptical view

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by chris hancock

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43 below bar and restaurant perth from

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september 17th adelaide critical

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thinkers in the pub benjamin on franklin

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from 6 pm onwards

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september 20th vic skeptics cafe online

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science books for children

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idon ben barak science writer and

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children's author

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september 20th gold coast skeptics in

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the pub come for food drinks and

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skeptics in action

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if you have any ideas for stories or

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want to contribute to skeptics

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facebook page or just have something you

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want to get off your chest then you're

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welcome to get in touch

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news leads should be sent to news tips

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at skeptics.com.au

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submissions for the magazine etc should

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go to editor at

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comments and suggestions even rude ones

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should also go to editor

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skeptics.com dot a u

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items of interest

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humane society uses animal psychic to

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encourage adoptions

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the u.s humane society of sonoma county

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has used quote adorable therapy dogs and

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a pet psychic for enticement unquote

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good cause

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wrong message

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even if it is quote just lots of fun

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unquote

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[Music]

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listicle number one

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10 best movies about telekinesis

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a mixed bunch from the cute fun with

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telekinesis matilda

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to scientific conspiracy the power

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to ethical responsibilities chronicle

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to the bloodthirsty revenge all explode

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your head version suitable for families

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scanners

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that's a joke by the way it's not really

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suitable for kids or

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adults for that matter

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okay the silly story of the week

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this is rather silly

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apparently

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a ghost's penis was caught on camera by

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paranormal fans

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honestly really

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tim i don't know where you get these

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stories from but don't forget you can

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subscribe to this newsletter at

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skeptics.com.edu

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[Music]

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ciao

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[Music]

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well folks i know that people living in

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sydney and melbourne in particular have

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had enough i've had a gut full of this

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wretched lockdown that's going week

859
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,480
after week after month after month

860
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,560
but we wonder how are the folks in

861
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,040
newcastle just up the coast coping with

862
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,359
this lockdown and who better to ask than

863
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,400
that well-known newcastle goose maynard

864
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,000
that's right i can use the word

865
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:54,880
novocaistrian without being arrested so

866
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,040
maynard how's lockdown treating you what

867
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,880
are you doing to to beat the lockdown

868
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,160
blues

869
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,520
look i've got some great advice for

870
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,000
people out there thinking oh god there's

871
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:06,560
every day every day is wednesday spelled

872
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,480
with a w h e n wednesday and so you need

873
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,880
to like differentiate those by having

874
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:14,800
some simple percussion instruments

875
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,920
around your house so for example today

876
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:20,400
is bongo day here in the main

877
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:27,990
and i can do big poetry

878
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:28,880
yes

879
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:31,839
i was slamming my thing into my

880
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:36,400
fingerboard and i went to boeing

881
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,480
yeah man that's where it's at so do you

882
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,920
do you think that many people in

883
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:41,359
newcastle are doing this to beat the

884
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,880
lockdown

885
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:44,800
no not one just me

886
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,359
really not one person um but the good

887
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:49,040
thing is the neighbors are happy for

888
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,200
bongos and los angeles

889
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,880
okay i think i can i think i can

890
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,320
understand their point of view now may

891
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,000
not you're famous on the skeptic zone

892
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,480
for doing many many live interviews

893
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,560
probably over 10 years now worth of live

894
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,000
interviews but for the past few years

895
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:04,079
it's been a bit thin on the ground in

896
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,359
that respect

897
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:07,920
well yes in fact i can actually clock it

898
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:10,800
the last live interview i did was with

899
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,839
mr dick smith himself at a um at a

900
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,160
skeptic's dinner i think it was remember

901
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,720
that one that that was some time ago

902
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:20,079
because

903
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:20,880
as

904
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,160
2020 dawned upon us suddenly we weren't

905
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,680
meeting each other because of the the

906
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,760
virus we weren't having skeptics in the

907
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,440
part where you would normally do lots of

908
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,040
interviews we weren't having conventions

909
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,800
when you normally do

910
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:35,440
lots of interviews and more interviews

911
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,560
plus more interviews so it's been a long

912
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,160
time between drinks for uh live

913
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,839
interviews from maynard

914
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,160
well look maybe for you richard but let

915
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:45,760
me tell you even before there was a

916
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,920
worldwide pandemic people are cleaning

917
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:49,520
up with ridiculous excuses not to meet

918
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,079
me this is just the latest one oh we

919
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,480
can't meet uh due to a deadly pandemic

920
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:56,880
oh yeah yeah you said that you couldn't

921
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,119
meet me because you were stuck in your

922
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,280
foot was stuck in the fridge last week

923
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,920
and now it's a pandemic this week sure

924
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,000
so yeah so i'm used to all this kind of

925
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,400
stuff um but um i have used this to go

926
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,040
through my archives and look at various

927
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:12,960
things and i was just actually showing

928
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:15,680
reading you i i found a cosmo magazine

929
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,720
yeah from 1987. yeah yeah and i'm just

930
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,040
looking at the uh the cosmo doctor and

931
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,200
it's um it's pretty much like dolly

932
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:25,599
doctor just slightly older um

933
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:28,800
uh 87 what um what what's happening in

934
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:33,119
1997. oh here we go in the cosmo section

935
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:35,680
um uh what is the severe childhood

936
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,480
disorder known as autism they're asking

937
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,720
in 1987

938
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,640
which i would have thought that

939
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,200
uh that autism was

940
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,280
recently gone by only 87. you know

941
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,720
that's a really good question i'm not

942
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,240
sure but i bet there's nothing you won't

943
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,079
find anything there saying oh it's

944
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,160
caused by vaccination that that

945
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:56,400
conspiracy theory what does it say oh

946
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,680
and they're asking can it be cured um

947
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,320
oh and also the use of language in 87

948
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:05,200
very different really says um um can it

949
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,480
be cured are autistic children mentally

950
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,640
oh boy that really dates it

951
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,400
doesn't i don't think i don't think you

952
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:14,160
use that language now and what do they

953
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,440
say um

954
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,880
uh

955
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,920
no

956
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,920
i'm just i'm just looking to vaccinate

957
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,880
no

958
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,839
um

959
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,760
and again yeah and and the answer also

960
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:25,920
uses the phrasing to be as well

961
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,280
wow um and it says the autism is unknown

962
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,400
yeah

963
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,400
current theories focus on abnormalities

964
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,960
of certain neurotransmitters chemicals

965
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:36,560
in the brain

966
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:41,599
um no it does not mention vaccines even

967
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,920
once well that that i guess that we're

968
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,400
talking about nearly 35 years ago

969
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:48,560
uh but uh just earlier you were telling

970
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,599
me that the 1987 edition of cos

971
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,520
cosmopolitan has a big

972
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:55,920
horoscope section oh yeah huge telescope

973
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:58,240
section i just read a bit too there and

974
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:01,599
it's just as vague as it is now and i

975
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:04,240
thought it might have been

976
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,839
jessica the astrologers doing it but

977
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,200
it's uh someone else that didn't quite

978
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,000
know also in the doctor page they go is

979
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,400
chlorine in swimming pools it irritates

980
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,400
my eyes is it dangerous to swim in a

981
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:16,319
chlorinated pool

982
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:19,359
as modern as tomorrow

983
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:20,800
who was doing the horoscope it was

984
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,720
someone called diane pillatsky

985
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,800
there you go and there was like three

986
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:29,520
cool pages all about it right next to

987
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,000
the ad for the amazing new yogurt that

988
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:34,000
was out called yo play oh i've heard

989
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,359
about that yogurt i don't think it'll do

990
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:37,680
pretty good no play also they're really

991
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:40,640
pushing at jontas as a fashion statement

992
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,920
if you want to go horse riding or

993
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,240
wandering around town and all the women

994
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,480
seem to have extremely short hair and

995
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,800
spiky seems to be the big deal i guess

996
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,800
that was 87 yeah

997
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,520
it was 87 all right and yeah all the

998
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,160
women's all the models have really short

999
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,040
hair definitely like almost like a buzz

1000
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,040
cut kind of thing in bleach so that's

1001
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,640
the fashion report from main art here

1002
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,200
see i don't need trove i've got my house

1003
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:07,119
i've got mainly international studios in

1004
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,880
fact if i look to my right i can see

1005
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,040
oh yeah this is a very controversial

1006
00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:15,200
book which i read every once in a while

1007
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:17,480
it's um from

1008
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:19,920
1949 this book

1009
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,680
by edwin fogelman and is hiroshima the

1010
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,760
decision to use the a-bomb and it's got

1011
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:28,160
everybody including harry truman all the

1012
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:29,760
military guys from the end of the second

1013
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,000
world war saying yep we did that we were

1014
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,680
fine good to go

1015
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,520
and it's really interesting because the

1016
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,680
language is quite strong it's all very

1017
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,200
influenced by the second world war but

1018
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,599
i'm just kind of finished and there's

1019
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,280
not one voice going oh maybe we

1020
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,960
shouldn't have done that no there's not

1021
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:46,880
one person there's like 18 people who

1022
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,280
did essays for it and not one of them

1023
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,359
says hey maybe she's done that but you

1024
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,359
know it's so it's very of the time which

1025
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,599
is why i like it sometimes if you go

1026
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,839
back to the historical records

1027
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,160
it's like basically what people were

1028
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,000
thinking at the time and you don't get

1029
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:03,760
that sort of uh

1030
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,839
revisionism you get like years down the

1031
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:07,280
track

1032
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:08,000
and

1033
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,960
actually how far forward does trove go

1034
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,960
can you get true from like only two or

1035
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,720
three years ago when does it cut out no

1036
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,640
it sort of cuts out i think it can

1037
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,640
stretch into the 70s if you're lucky

1038
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,720
something like that maybe the 80s but uh

1039
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:21,599
it's

1040
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,760
modern up-to-date news all right so if

1041
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,119
you want to know when geographers are

1042
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,720
really big in the fashion world you go

1043
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,720
to try me yeah maybe maybe something

1044
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,119
like that uh now tell me maynard apart

1045
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:35,359
from um looking into strange books in

1046
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,960
your maynard archives there oh look i i

1047
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:40,640
could i could go through heaps more i've

1048
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,400
got my uh 1600 vw beetle manual fixing

1049
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,400
it for a car i haven't got anymore i've

1050
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,440
got a book called how to sound clever i

1051
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,359
do have to use that a lot and of course

1052
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,000
my favorite the naughtiest reindeer a

1053
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,560
children's book um which is great it's

1054
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,480
almost as much fun as mr chicken goes to

1055
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,640
paris the greatest book ever written

1056
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,079
it's amazing you have time to do

1057
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:04,000
anything else but you do other things

1058
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:07,119
too you do lots of stuff over at

1059
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:08,960
a maynard.com what can people expect if

1060
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,079
they go there well um until the uh the

1061
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:14,240
the covered pandemic shut down the

1062
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,760
newcastle area um i was doing some uh

1063
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,599
work there on the casting club

1064
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:21,920
exhibition because obviously no one from

1065
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,400
sydney or anyone else now can actually

1066
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,079
go see this exhibition which finishes on

1067
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,079
the 31st of october and so they have to

1068
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,800
shut the actual museum so i hosted a few

1069
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,280
clips and we got local bands to play

1070
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,480
songs every skeptic will enjoy this

1071
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,000
because i remember remember when we went

1072
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,920
to melbourne and the launch night for

1073
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,400
the skeptics conference had a a

1074
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,400
wonderful woman playing the heart hmm

1075
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,319
that's right that was great yes some

1076
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,680
years ago well

1077
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,839
at the end of almost live from the

1078
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,280
casper net club the shall i host it's

1079
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,599
only a little 20 20 30 minute show at

1080
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,599
the end of it there was a group called

1081
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:57,440
and i'll say this carefully so you don't

1082
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,160
mishear it the nut bush

1083
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:03,200
seating limits the nut bush seating

1084
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:06,800
limit would be a two-piece and one one

1085
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,359
person playing the harp and the singer

1086
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:10,720
playing a

1087
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,880
casio a really old casio keyboard

1088
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:16,880
he makes funny noises and um and she had

1089
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,359
a three octave range beautiful yes very

1090
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:21,359
well yes i've seen the clip it's amazing

1091
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,560
yes and they did the legend of zenodu by

1092
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,440
david d josie biki mikin tisch which um

1093
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,520
which i believe is tim menden's favorite

1094
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,200
band of all time i think that's right i

1095
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,640
think tim mendenham just loves to kick

1096
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,960
back and listen well worth of it's well

1097
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:36,400
worth a look because it's not very often

1098
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:39,119
you get the 70s casio and the heart

1099
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:40,160
together

1100
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,960
um

1101
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,720
the only thing that's missing is the

1102
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,240
talking bit in the middle because

1103
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,319
there's a talking bit what was it to you

1104
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,640
that one man gave down his life for a

1105
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:50,400
cheese sandwich or something like that

1106
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:53,200
and i really think that leonard thiel

1107
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,640
should have done that but unfortunately

1108
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,480
he's dead just a quick question richard

1109
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:58,880
who was the best guest artist on skippy

1110
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,160
the bush kangaroo oh for my money

1111
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,079
john lawrence

1112
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,040
okay i look i i i would say frank drink

1113
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,760
myself frank fring yes

1114
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:11,839
and i think i think laws he did well out

1115
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,720
of that because he sang in it and he got

1116
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,640
lots of um

1117
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:18,000
residuals

1118
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,079
actually cool it's called um sometimes

1119
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,640
it's called synchronization as well and

1120
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,640
look because right said bread and i know

1121
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:28,160
they're not big with the skeptics that's

1122
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,680
right said fred they're not really

1123
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:32,000
they're not masters in there i don't

1124
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:33,359
know if they're any vaccination people

1125
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,480
but they actually yeah they had made six

1126
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,480
times in out of money from i'm too sexy

1127
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,400
than the song actually sold by just

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00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,640
having it for ads and things like that

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00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,240
that's the way to go that's the way to

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00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,760
go it's almost like yeah the song

1131
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,720
originally made them six million pounds

1132
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,359
in 90s money and they've made three or

1133
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,839
four times that just by having it badge

1134
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,040
and everything like that isn't that

1135
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,560
annoying richard haven't you got a song

1136
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,160
you can sell to someone and make some

1137
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,760
money i think we should write one i

1138
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,200
think we should write one may not maybe

1139
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,839
about uh beating the lockdown

1140
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:05,520
yeah

1141
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,240
going crazy because i'm locked down and

1142
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:12,079
no one talked to me anyway in the first

1143
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,960
place

1144
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,040
there you go see it's just like that

1145
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,119
it's like it's just that i don't know

1146
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:19,119
where that comes from it's just genius

1147
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,559
well somebody has now heard that on the

1148
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:22,160
skeptic zone they're probably writing it

1149
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,520
down and going to make a fortune out of

1150
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:25,200
it yes so get along there and have a

1151
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:26,319
look at the video because it's funny

1152
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,520
because it's like what happened last

1153
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,440
year richard i've done the

1154
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:31,280
whole video live streaming thing again

1155
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:32,720
because everyone's at home and they

1156
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,920
can't go anywhere folks if you want to

1157
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:37,839
get a dose of the bongos or anything

1158
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,800
else head to maynard.com.edu

1159
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,720
may not you have been putting out some

1160
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,839
live

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00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,839
videos on saturday nights you're giving

1162
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,200
that a rest for a little while but i

1163
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,359
hope that starts up again soon

1164
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,040
i'll look i'm going to be doing it in

1165
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,119
september because i figured look what's

1166
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,760
the only thing i can do in life the only

1167
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,280
two things i can do in life that we know

1168
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,200
of is i can interview people

1169
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:01,040
live reasonably well but of course

1170
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,400
that's not available at the moment i can

1171
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,319
do some zoom stuff sure and the other

1172
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:06,400
thing is i can present

1173
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,200
strange things that no one really ever

1174
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:11,839
needs to see from a cultural perspective

1175
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,800
um as as they would say triple j uh what

1176
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,240
the radio station used to work at

1177
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,920
maynard's very good at selling the

1178
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:19,359
unsellable

1179
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,359
and that's exactly what i do when i do a

1180
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,359
show because you know i mean look

1181
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,359
do people really need to see you in the

1182
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,359
rhythm of life in that movie sweet show

1183
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,280
yeah but i will play that clip and you

1184
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,200
are in that clip yes i'm afraid i've

1185
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,720
seen everything

1186
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,240
i think i am i think that's richard

1187
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:35,280
saunders

1188
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,520
in richard's in a grey suit dancing

1189
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,119
around with

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00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,880
it could be shirley maclaine or it could

1191
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,960
be brian dunning in a red wig i think

1192
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,359
it's brian dunning in a red wig i i

1193
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,119
think he and i went turned up one day

1194
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,800
and they said look you two do this and

1195
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,480
yeah i remember that

1196
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,720
but it is uncanny how much that actor

1197
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,000
looks like you

1198
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:56,240
it's the way he looks around sideways at

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00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,200
the colts meeting it's very saunders um

1200
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:01,839
very saunders indeed but look everybody

1201
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,000
hang in there

1202
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:05,760
basically um look look even if the

1203
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,640
pandemic lifted tomorrow um no one no

1204
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,760
one would tell me because they want me

1205
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,720
to stay at home um so yeah but the good

1206
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:14,640
thing about newcastle is i'm within

1207
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,280
range to go to the beach

1208
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:19,040
so so that's where i'll be getting my

1209
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,800
exercise i'm going to be oh that's right

1210
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:22,720
richard have you ever heard now you know

1211
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:25,359
when i say cleanse your your

1212
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,160
aura cleanse your aura yes

1213
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,400
yes well one of the ways that they say

1214
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,960
you should cleanse your aura is to bathe

1215
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:34,559
in in salt water in the sea that

1216
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,760
cleanses your aura apparently right um

1217
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,760
i've just got to find it to take it

1218
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,119
there that's only a problem i don't know

1219
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,280
where it is i think it's underneath a

1220
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:45,280
glove box in the car well i'm sure

1221
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,119
you'll find your aura there or you'll

1222
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:49,440
find something else maynard all the way

1223
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,319
from newcastle from maynard.com.eu

1224
00:49:56,290 --> 00:49:54,480
i'm glad to see that the lockdown hasn't

1225
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,300
sent you crazy

1226
00:50:15,670 --> 00:49:58,079
[Music]

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00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,270
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1228
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,760
zone thank you maynard

1229
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,160
thank you for that great advice

1230
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,200
about beating the locked down blues

1231
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,640
we have um

1232
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,200
around hopefully just only another month

1233
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,559
to go here in sydney before the

1234
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,079
lockdowns

1235
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,760
are lifted but we don't know to be

1236
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,839
honest we simply don't know

1237
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,000
and all i can do is

1238
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,720
echo the general advice please get

1239
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,720
vaccinated

1240
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,559
thank you to those people who get

1241
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,200
vaccinated and contribute to the skeptic

1242
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,960
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1243
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,119
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1244
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,119
your contributions mean the show keeps

1245
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:54,800
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1246
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,200
now if you want to if you feel compelled

1247
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,640
to you can always go over to the

1248
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,200
skeptic's own facebook page there's a

1249
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,599
link on skepticzone.tv

1250
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:04,640
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1251
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,599
comment on any issues in any episodes

1252
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,280
you wish

1253
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:11,359
now this thursday night 7 p.m sydney

1254
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,880
time we have sydney skeptics in the pub

1255
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:16,400
online

1256
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,280
again

1257
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,280
that's pretty cool that's all right and

1258
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,960
you can find out more information by

1259
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,319
going to meetup and searching for aus t

1260
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,200
aust skeptics aust skeptics for more

1261
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,920
details and how to join while you join

1262
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,520
via the twitch page

1263
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,359
coming up on next week's show

1264
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,880
some details about the upcoming

1265
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,119
australian skeptics new zealand skeptics

1266
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,920
joint conference convention this year in

1267
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,839
late november

1268
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,760
but for this week

1269
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:45,680
this is richard saunders signing off

1270
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:53,270
you've been listening to the skeptic

1271
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,720
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1272
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:56,079
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1273
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,390
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1279
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1280
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1281
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1282
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,880
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1283
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,559
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1284
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,800
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1285
00:52:37,550 --> 00:52:31,359
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00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:44,750
[Music]

1287
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,069
okay i'm gonna do that again

1288
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:55,670
i've read this so many times and it

1289
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,950
silly story of the week

1290
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:08,069
it's apparently a ghost penis

1291
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:20,090
oh god

1292
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,470
[Music]

1293
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:28,079
while you're still hanging out with the

1294
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,680
show people haven't got a life have you

1295
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,599
got somewhere to be oh that's right you

1296
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,240
want to do the dice game which is just

1297
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,800
like a book the dice man except it's not

1298
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,920
quite the same because it's richard

1299
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:39,200
saunders richard what am i going to do

1300
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,400
here i've got i've got something in my

1301
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:42,240
hand that's square hello maynard well

1302
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,839
that's unexpected normally it's me at

1303
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,200
the end of the show doing the dice game

1304
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,599
if you have a dice with you or die uh i

1305
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,280
think it's oh that sounds like a

1306
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:51,040
six-sided one to me and it sounds like

1307
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,559
it's from los angeles

1308
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:55,280
from from the south point casino in las

1309
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,200
vegas where these

1310
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:59,119
was that was that where we went to tan

1311
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:01,280
as it were yes absolutely those were the

1312
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,480
days

1313
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,480
yes yes remember yes we yeah there'd be

1314
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,480
more than three people in a room

1315
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,480
those were the days what you do maynard

1316
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,640
is you roll the dice three times let

1317
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,119
everybody have a guess between rolls and

1318
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,640
we'll see if we can use our collective

1319
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:16,880
psychic power or dumb luck to guess the

1320
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,599
number and i'm going to put my um hand

1321
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,720
up and say

1322
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:21,839
uh

1323
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,520
it's going to say

1324
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:25,280
three

1325
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,119
we go

1326
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,839
oh it's a six a six well two threes are

1327
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:33,520
six so i sort of nearly got it right

1328
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,160
okay so the first number is six number

1329
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,400
now i'll say one

1330
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,990
three

1331
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:43,839
um hmm

1332
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,280
then in that case i'm going to say

1333
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:49,359
six

1334
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,480
and what's the susan gerbic number one

1335
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:54,000
is it five

1336
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,480
five okay here we go

1337
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,599
here we go

1338
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:59,040
do you think susan gerbic is kind of

1339
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,119
like the uh i thought brian dunning was

1340
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,040
the uh shirley maclaine of the skeptics

1341
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:04,720
movement but maybe it's susan good maybe

1342
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,390
oh well i didn't get one so how does how

1343
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,160
does that go for a statistical spread if

1344
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,440
i can use that kind of language

1345
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,200
i think that's pretty normal for three

1346
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,280
rolls of a six-sided die may not i think

1347
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:27,920
that's pretty run of the mill

1348
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,640
okay and look look immediately people

1349
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,359
when this ends open your browser go to

1350
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,000
youtube watch sammy davis jr doing the

1351
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,160
rhythm of life would be choreography by

1352
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:40,319
bob fosse and keep an eye out for

1353
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:41,520
someone who looks a lot like widow

1354
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,040
yankovic but it's not him because owl

1355
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,200
was only 10 when that movie was made but

1356
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,880
there is a guy who looks like we'd all

1357
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,960
in it as well and that's my gift to the

1358
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,119
world sammy davis jr singing like that